Ladies I bring you the goody spin pin
They aren't super cheap but they are AWESOME!! Well worth the $5.99. I used just ONE on my huge fro and it held a tight bun. I prefer the sloppy loose look (pictured above) and it does nicely for that too. RAVE Review from RONNIE. More than two thumbs up. Unless of course you are my older sister and you just wacked your hair off...this will not help with that. LOL.